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Don't count out Rangers on Fielder

Posted on: December 20, 2011 1:11 pm
Edited on: December 20, 2011 2:20 pm
So now that the Rangers have bid $51.7 million on Yu Darvish, they have to be out of the Prince Fielder sweepstakes, right?

Not necessarily.

The Rangers have always seemed on the periphery of the Fielder derby, but they still appear to be eyeing the top remaining free agent even after winning the Darvish auction and presumably targeting at least $100 million, and likely more, for the star 25-year-old right-handed pitcher from the Nippon Ham Fighters.

Texas is a threat to win Fielder, too, provided that the Rangers are willing to make the financial commitment it would take, as it is a desirable landing spot with an already stacked lineup and fine hitting ballpark.

Texas had baseball’s third most productive offense last year, but would threaten to possess baseball’s best lineup with Fielder in it. The Fielder pursuit has been pretty quiet, but other teams believed to have some interest in Fielder include the Mariners, Nationals, Cubs, Orioles, Marlins and incumbent Brewers.

The Rangers have always liked Fielder, and it’s not known whether their interest has actually increased in response to the chief rival Angels landing superstar Albert Pujols and frontline pitcher C.J. Wilson, the ex-Ranger. The Angels’ two huge purchases, which occurred the same day at the Winter Meetings, surprised the Rangers and most of baseball and gave Los Angeles of Anaheim a resounding early offseason victory at a cost of $332.5 million.

Word is, Darvish is seeking a deal for about $75 million over five years, which would be on top of the $51.7 million posting fee Texas would be required to pay the Fighters should they sign him, as expected. If they were to pay Fielder, say $206 million, they’d top the Angels in expense for their two players.

The Rangers were not interested in Pujols but do like Fielder because he is only 27 years old and would fit into their star-studded lineup.  Texas is also trying to lock up several of their own stars, including Derek Holland, Ian Kinsler and Josh Hamilton.

Signing Fielder would also give the Rangers some middle-of-the-order insurance against the possibility of losing Hamilton, who is eligible for free agency after next year. While the Rangers want to keep Hamilton, they want to do it with a shorter contract than he will likely want.

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Since: Aug 24, 2006
Posted on: December 23, 2011 3:39 pm

Don't count out Rangers on Fielder

While I'm sure the Rangers covet Fielder to try & keep up with the Angels, they would be foolish to sign him to a big money,long term deal.That's    what it's going to take & the Rangers simply can't afford it.Hamilton is going to want something like a 5 year deal at 20Ms/year.I highly doubt Cruz will settle for a measly 12Ms/year.I think he's going to want a deal close to Hamiltons,& if the Rangers wont pay it, another team will via FA.If Werth & J D Drew can be over-paid,so can Cruz.I think he can command/con  another team out of 18-20M for 4 or 5 years.As for Kinsler, he's not worth 15 or 16M$.10-12 is more like it, but who knows in a baseball world that is handing out quarter billion contracts.Napoli will be 31 in October.For some reason I thought he was older.,As a catcher who hit .320 with 30 homers, he is due for a megacontract.Nothing like Joe Mauer's foolish deal that gets him 23M/year.If Napoli can put up great numbers again, he should command a 100M$ deal from someone.Catchers who can produce like Napoli are few & fae  between.

Since: Dec 29, 2006
Posted on: December 22, 2011 4:51 pm

Don't count out Rangers on Fielder

I don't see anyone saying how much we should pay for Fielder? Let's say he would agree to 8 years at $20M-$22M just to play for a probable winner.  The next question is will you have to give Hamilton at least that much? And if Hamilton gets that much, will you have to give Kinsler something close to Young and Beltre money?  That would mean Beltre 14-15 Young 16  Hamilton 20 Darvish 16-20 Kinsler 14-15 and Fielder 20-22 and that means about $106M for 6 players.  Everything is a spillover. If the team has a really good year again, some pitchers are going to win alot of games, and they will want more money too. What if Darvish doesn't have the ace numbers. Two other pitchers perform better. So if you can't afford to pay me, I will go somewhere else, and you end up with really good hitting, but suck pitching after a couple of years. You will still have real good regular seasons, but the playoffs become a problem. It is a tricky balance to maintain between pitching and hitting and payroll.

Since: Jun 9, 2010
Posted on: December 22, 2011 1:40 pm

Don't count out Rangers on Fielder

I don't understand how anyone thinks the Rangers got into finacial woes again just by posting and potentially signing Darvish?  They probably don't realize that the Rangers signed one of the largest MLB TV contracts ever and will bring in around $70-80 million a year from that.  They have also easily brought in enough to cover Darvish's posting from their last two World Series runs.  With the exception of Nolan Ryan, the majority owners of the Rangers are silent partners that have deep pockets funded by oil and gas, and are willing to flip the bill to make this a perennial winning team. Sure the Rangers will be getting into the big boy salaries if they resign all their current players, as well as reach agreements with Darvish and Fielder; but unless they ink several of those players to terrible deals for the team, the Rangers should be in a stable finanial position.  They have a lot of young talent in the system, and if that talent pans out it will help offset the cost of paying the big names they bring in.  If the deal for Fielder makes sence, then they should do it, I just dont trust a guy his size past 6-7 yrs, maybe if he gets lapband surgery we can add on 3-4 years to that deal.  I trust what Nolan and Daniels are doing, they have turned this team around, they have given the Metroplex a baseball team we can believe in and rally around.  Now if God would just give us some cooler evenings in the summer I am sure we could crack that 3 million yearly attendence mark we came so close to last year.

If it makes financial sence sign him, otherwise we can probably do okay with a combination of Moreland, Napoli(The Rangers WS MVP), and Young(The Rangers Regular Season MVP) running first base.


Since: Apr 8, 2011
Posted on: December 21, 2011 3:36 pm

Don't count out Rangers on Fielder

The Rangers have long needed a solid First baseman. How sweet would it be to land Feilder!

Since: Dec 6, 2010
Posted on: December 21, 2011 1:31 pm

Don't count out Rangers on Fielder

The most sense is Fielder going somewhere the opposing team has to pitch to him.  The Cardinals, Rangers, Brewers fit the mold but are they going to pony up the dough?  The Rangers have financial woes, even signing Darvish on the cheap probably will keep them out of the market for Fielder.  Question is will the Brewers committ?  St. Louis is an obvious choice but the acrimony between the Cardinals and Brewers and being inthe same division makes no sense as do the Cubs.  Prince wants a WS ring or 2.  Not many places that can happen and just rule out the small markets whose owners are content with T.V. money and revenue sharing.  At 27 and in his prime he is a guy you can sign to a 7 to 10 year deal if thats what it takes for him to sign.  Honestly there aren't many places he can go because of the salary he commands.  NY, Boston, Anahiem, Philly have their 1B slot tied up for years.  Ryan Howard's health adds an interesting wrinkle.  Philly can afford Fielder.  Does Philly sign a younger Fielder and trade Howard if he is able to come back late in 2012 or spring 2013.  I'm guessing Fielder stays put considering the state of MLB at this time.  If Darvish doesn't sign with the Rangers I look for the Rangers to go hard at Fielder but a shorter front loaded contract even with their financial woes.  Advice to the Brewers...get serious with Fielder mandatory reporting dates are about 70 days away and look what happened to the Cardinals.

Since: Dec 21, 2011
Posted on: December 21, 2011 10:02 am

Don't count out Rangers on Fielder

If the Rangers get Fielder, then they wouldn't want him to be batting any lower than 4. Unless you enjoy seeing him walked you would need a high quality bat behind him like Beltre. The Brewers had a hole there this season and it cost them in several key situations.
I have also seen it posted that Fielder is not clutch. I dispute that. Fielder hit several key homeruns when pitched to. He maintained his focus despite being pitched around most of the season. He is a clutch guy who plays everyday.
The big question is what will he do after getting paid?

Since: Dec 4, 2010
Posted on: December 21, 2011 10:01 am

Don't count out Rangers on Fielder

How sweet would it be that Fielder could be playing for the Rangers in the same division as Pujols? Prince would be a great DH.  And with the two of them out of the NL Central and a possible suspension for Braun......Go, Reds!     

Since: Jun 8, 2009
Posted on: December 21, 2011 8:59 am

Don't count out Rangers on Fielder

Feilder is not that clutch.  For a clean-up hitter,  he put up great numbers but isn't the caliber hitter most think by just looking at numbers.  I watch every game,  he hit's HR's when they are down big or up big.  Maybe i'm out of line here and have a cloudy mind,  but I've been saying the crew needed to trade feilder before he wasn't worthless in the market.  Mark my word,  he'll be a turd in another couple years.  he did have a better year this year for hits,  but the big bat never showed up when it was needed.

Since: Sep 28, 2010
Posted on: December 21, 2011 8:39 am

Don't count out Rangers on Fielder

The Rangers will be in deep trouble if they spend any more money. They have Cruz, Kinsler, Hamilton, and Napoli making well under their market value with contracts that expire in 2012 2013. No use in signing Fielder for 8-9 years when guys like Kinsler and Hamilton are making half of what they will command in free agency. Let's face it, Hamilton will need 16-20, Kinsler 15-16, Cruz 12 and Napoli 10. This kind of spending would put the Rangers into the Sox/Yanks/Phils salary area if they were to sign Fielder now.

Since: Oct 31, 2007
Posted on: December 21, 2011 8:23 am

Don't count out Rangers on Fielder

Athletic feet... The Cardinals wont go after Fielder for obvious reasons and for the same reason they didn't go after AP for One Dewitt is smarter than that, and two if they were to spend that kind of scratch they would have signed AP... Besides Beltran is a Better fit "team" wise than Fielder.

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