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Braun will press multiple issues and test itself

Posted on: January 7, 2012 1:20 pm
Edited on: January 24, 2012 8:49 pm
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Ryan Braun will be coming to the Baseball Writers dinner Jan. 21 to pick up his National League MVP award. At least that’s what we hear. His position is that he did nothing wrong, and thus, has nothing to hide.

We hope that’s right. And maybe it is. Everyone should be presumed innocent. And in this case, we’re talking about a player who has been seen for a while as one of the brightest lights in the game, both on and off the field. Additionally, it shouldn’t even be known yet that he failed a test for a banned substance.

The Brewers star is the first major league player to have his confidentiality breached. So maybe he becomes the first to win a hearing and save himself the 50 games suspension (although, that part won’t be easy).

Braun certainly has expressed a lot of belief in his own innocence in the brief comments he’s made publicly, including one in which he said, “It’s BS.’’ It’s too bad that’s about all we’ve heard from Braun, as he is one of the most articulate players in the game. We will assume that he’s probably saving his best material for the hearing.

But what will he say then? Word around the game is that he will press “multiple issues,’’ including the testing process itself. That’s good. Because to win the case, he has to point out a flaw in the system.

One thing he is expected to point to is the test claim of a bizarrely high spike in testosterone, which was apparently something like three times what’s been seen before; it will likely to be argued that it must therefore be caused by testing error. Braun obviously passed all the tests before this one, and he passed a subsequent test he ordered upon learning about the failed one a couple weeks after taking the original sometime in early October when his Brewers team was just embarking on the playoffs.

No one has done it at the major league level yet, but one minor leaguer won enough benefit of doubt in a hearing to win his case. (We don’t know who that is because his confidentiality wasn’t breached.) Braun will try to become the first at a hearing that ix expected to be just after that BBWAA dinner, Jan. 23 or 24, according to Lance Allen of WTMJ-4 in Milwaukee.

It sounds like Braun may try a number of avenues here, including the possibility that a medication to combat a private medical issue is to blame, as TMZ initially reported. But while that argument could win some points with the public, that isn’t going to win the day, or the hearing.

Baseball deserves credit for giving players a chance at a hearing (unlike the NFL). But it’s still considered a “strict liability’’ situation, which means it’s up to Braun to prove he’s been somehow wronged. He’s enlisted top people (both for p.r. and legal help), and that’s a good thing because everyone deserves their day in court. Braun should get his.    

 




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Since: Sep 17, 2007
Posted on: January 11, 2012 9:20 am
 

Braun will press multiple issues and test itself

oh oh oh oh ...I didn't know I was talking to Dolly Parton!!! SO Sorry Dolly   lol another person telling us how horrible we are lol...



Since: Sep 17, 2007
Posted on: January 11, 2012 8:52 am
 

Braun will press multiple issues and test itself

Simple debate method learned in debate class.  When the person uses personal attacks instead of arguing his point it is because he is out of points and now has to resort to personal attacks to try and strenthen the point that he can't.  Yeah the world isn't moving forward because of what I think about Ryan Braun...You are theh type of person that reads too much into things.  It is sports for crying out loud.  It is entertainment.  I wished they all did steroids and were hulking monsters.  I would be entertained more.  You actually make me laugh.  Wind him up and let him go.  Think about what it says about you when you base your judgement on a person based on two posts!   That is hysterical.  You and your thoughts of me are about as important to me as if Braun did Steroids...It doesn't matter.  au revoir and I won't lose any sleep because  i am ruining your world hahahahahahaha Guess I will go back to my cave and pound rocks hahahahahaha....you mean nothing to me.



Since: Sep 6, 2011
Posted on: January 10, 2012 12:15 pm
 

Braun will press multiple issues and test itself

Guess what?  No one cares about your biography. It's not relevant.

The point being that the people claiming that he took another test immediately after and passed those tests are his own team of hired powered lawyers and publicist.  In other words, this follow-up testing was not done by objective and unbiased type professional personnel.  It was staged information simply released for damage control. 

Merely that and nothing more.

If you can't get past the common sense, simple, and obvious, then it makes no sense to continue this discussion with you. 

It is the simple minded, easily controlled masses comprised by the likes of you that keep this country from moving forward in any significant manner.  The sad part is that it forces the rest of us to pick up the pieces and deal with the consequences. 

Ah, such is life.



Since: Sep 17, 2007
Posted on: January 10, 2012 10:27 am
 

Braun will press multiple issues and test itself

You are such an idiot.  You know absolutely nothing about steroids.  The spin machine?  Go do your research first.  When I was much younger than I am now(22) I took steroids for 2 cycles in college.  Not happy I did but I was sick of being 145 lbs.  It was not until 4 weeks when I started to see the weights start to really spike.  When I entered the second cycle and was 12 weeks in I saw an monsterous spike.  I start with these numbers in three lifts...200 lb bench press three times to 245 lb bench press 6 times.  225 lb squat to 315, 225 lb dead lift to 325 lb dead lift.  My first cycle I went from 145 lbs to at teh end of 8 weeks 155 lbs but to 175 at the end of the 16 weeks.  It has to get in your system like any other drug and build itself up.  So no this is not the spin cycle it is actual regretful use of the stuff.  I stopped because of price and because my dad sort of noticed the 35 lb weight gain.  That with the history of heart disease in my family didn't seem like it would mix too well.  But I felt amazing.  the energy and focus Ihad when playing basketball and football was unreal!  My focus in the classroom was better.  I just zeroed in on everything.  I completely understand why they do it. But Braun is different because you cannot get it out of your system that fast and unless he took a boatload to spike it way up, steroids are given in cycles to build you up then ween you off.  So if the huge spike came during the peak level of ingestion then it would not be out of your system in two weeks and the huge spike would not show if he was on the end of the cycle because he would be taking less.  It just doesn't match up.  As for your "some have gone careers without testing postive"  THEY DIDN"T TEST BECAUSE IT WASN'T AGAINST THE RULES...Every knows baseball turned a blind eye.  But today the testing is accurate.  THe testing done in the 90's was a joke because the drug makers were ahead of the testers.  I don't think that is the case any longer.  The steroids I had could not de detected unless by olympic style testing.  I took a blood test for my dad and passed.  Now they use the Olympic style testing and you are not going to dupe that test.  So this is not spin machine this is knowledge of it junior



Since: Sep 11, 2006
Posted on: January 10, 2012 4:56 am
 

Braun will press multiple issues and test itself

Braun is as guilty as Bonds.  If he wants to play games, it's up to him.  But, everybody knows he is guilty.



Since: Sep 6, 2011
Posted on: January 9, 2012 9:14 pm
 

Braun will press multiple issues and test itself

As I stated...He was tested all season and never failed. 
So was Ramirez, ARod, Palmeiro, Bonds, Giambi, Sosa, Tejade, Cleme ... um .. do I really need to go on?

Listen, they have all been ested and never failed until eventually registering a fail.  Some have gone SEASONS. careers even, without failing a test, and some, to this date have never failed a test (Ahem ... Bonds).

Quit it with the BS excuses.

He was tested after and passed. 
If the spin machine says so, it must be true.

Gullible much?

He had one test where the results were so high that no one has even been close to the levels he had in his body.  That is the red flag! 
These were the playoffs too.  What is too say that Mr. Braun didn't became, let's say, a bit over zealous with the Juice since these were the playoffs and there was so much at stake?  Have you ever heard the slogan ... "The MLB playoffs ... where legends are born?"  "A little extra juice for the big game and I am immortalized."

Here some good advice for Ryan.  Next time don't get greedy and they might just let you slide. 

I have no horse in this race.  I could care less if he got caught. 
Sure you don't.  Your excuses are so unbiased, after all.

My question has always been why the gigantic spike all of a sudden and then gone in a week and a half?  It doesn't just leave your system.  Also you don't take Steroids and just all of a sudden two weeks later turn into a freak athlete with super power strengths.  You need to do cycles of it. 
More from the spin machine.  Do you believe everything you hear?

I think Braun get off. 
I know you do.  And I believe you because you have no horse in this race and because you truly don't care if he does or doesn't and could care less in all actuality.  You are not here to defend him.

I truly don't care if he does or doesn't and could care less in all actuality.  I am not here to defend him.
Is there an echo in this forum?



Since: Jan 9, 2012
Posted on: January 9, 2012 2:48 pm
 

Braun will press multiple issues and test itself

I would think that with the thousands of tests on hundreds of MLB players that are done through out the season if it were a "false positive" we would have heard of that happening a lot more often then just once. Just my opinion I like Braun and hope he is innocent but I dont think so



Since: Sep 17, 2007
Posted on: January 9, 2012 1:42 pm
 

Braun will press multiple issues and test itself

It is administered with due diligence, not once but twice to be certain that the test administered are accurate with literally no chance of error.
As I stated...He was tested all season and never failed.  He was tested after and passed.  He had one test where the results were so high that no one has even been close to the levels he had in his body.  That is the red flag!  I have no horse in this race.  I could care less if he got caught.  My question has always been why the gigantic spike all of a sudden and then gone in a week and a half?  It doesn't just leave your system.  Also you don't take Steroids and just all of a sudden two weeks later turn into a freak athlete with super power strengths.  You need to do cycles of it.  I think Braun get off.  I truly don't care if he does or doesn't and could care less in all actuality.  I am not here to defend him.




Since: Sep 15, 2006
Posted on: January 9, 2012 12:50 pm
 

Braun will press multiple issues and test itself

I'd like to know if Bud Selig is tested for drugs.  If the players get tested, he should be too.  He is a MLB employee. 



Since: Aug 4, 2011
Posted on: January 9, 2012 10:34 am
 

Braun will press multiple issues and test itself

It is entirely possible that the initial leaks came from the Braun camp with the hope that the ensuing PR blitz and spin would sway the ultimate outcome.  If a player and his handlers are faced with the nearly impossible task of challenging a positive test result, they may view the PR blitz as the best course since the positive test would become public after the denial of the appeal anyway. 


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